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Valley Nation (OMG. Why does, like, EVERYONE talk this way now??)

May 15, 2012

So, like, every day on my bus ride to work, I am, like surrounded by these 20- and 30-something girls talking like rully rully loudly on their cell phones. And it is like, so TOTALLY irritating. Seriously, I want to grab their iPhones from their gel manicured fingertips and run screeeeaming from the bus.

Their conversations all sound exactly alike. It’s as if these girls were all hatched from the same sorority at some College For The Overindulged where they majored in Shallow and minored in Snotty.

But what I notice most is that their voices all sound exactly alike. And OMG, it is, like, the most super annoying thing everrrrr.

Young women used to be mocked for speaking this way. They were parodied as moronic “Valley Girls”. Valley Girls were a popular stereotype and their trademark "Valspeak" was a staple of comedy routines and teen movies. Very few women actually aspired to talking that way.

Plus, in those days, you rarely ever heard anyone speak "Val" outside of the San Fernando Valley. It was strictly a regional accent, restricted to a small region of the country, and limited to a subset of young women (mostly teenage girls). Living in San Francisco, it wasn't uncommon to overhear a snippet of Valspeak now and then. But I always assumed it was a purely West Coast phenomenon.

That is soooooo not true anymore.

Seriously, have you noticed that now virtually ALL young women, in all parts of the country, speak this way? “Valspeak” has infiltrated the language like never before. It has no geographic boundaries. You can hear it on the streets of Manhattan or in the malls of the Midwest. Everrrrryone talks this way now!

I have coined a term for this latest version of Valspeak. I call it “The Voice” — and there is no escaping it. Turn on your tv and you will hear The Voice nonstop. Almost all young women on tv, from The Kardashians to The Bachelorette, now have The Voice. Even so-called “serious” journalists like CNN's Erin Burnett have The Voice (ok, using "serious journalist" and "CNN" in the same sentence is a stretch). Over at MSNBC, you can hear The Voice nightly — just listen to party girl turned political pundit Krystal Ball. Even when she's saying something semi-intelligent, it's hard to take her seriously because of…The Voice (and then there's also her NAME…and her penchant for tight, sleeveless dresses doesn't help her credibility, either).

The popular AMC series "Mad Men" prides itself on meticulously recreating the Sixties era. The show's set dressers and wardrobe people strive for authenticity. They usually get every last Sixties detail right; from the Mid-Century coffee tables to the women's kitten heels and teased bouffant hair.

But on a recent episode, that carefully crafted illusion was instantly shattered the moment Don Draper’s new wife, Megan, opened her mouth. OMG…she had The Voice! I'm sorry, but in the Sixties, women simply didn’t speak that way. "Mad Men" may be set in 1965. But Megan's vocal inflections are a dead giveaway that the show is produced in 2012. The Voice is as emblematic of our times as iPhones and Facebook profiles.

The Voice is also ubiquitous in tv commercials. I call this particular variation "Croaky Cutesy Voice”. Suddenly, almost every tv spot with a female voiceover sounds like it's being narrated by a six year old with a head cold. At first, the Croaky Cutesy Voice trend was sort of cool and different. Now it's just cloying. And mega annoying. Commercials used to be narrated by grownup women with sophistication and gravitas. But now, instead of Lauren Bacall, we get Baby Smurf. Really, enough is enough.

So, you ask, what exactly, is so irritating about this unique speech pattern? DUH. You mean in general, or shall I go alphabetically?

For starters, there's "uptalking". This is definitely one the most annoying linguistic trends of all time. Uptalking is when the speaker pronounces statements as if they are questions. As in, “So, like, yesterday, I went shopping? And like, I saw some really cute shoes?” What’s up with that? Listening to uptalk makes me, want to like, upchuck.

Then there is the phenomenon that linguists have dubbed “vocal fry”. This is the speech patterrrnnnnn where people draw out and end sentences with a gravelly low vibrato. This is like, THE most annoying trend everrrrrr.

Another trademark of The Voice is a bit subtler. It involves pronouncing the short "i" ( as in"pill") as a short "e" ("pell"). If you haven't heard this one yet, listen for it and you well. I mean, you will.

Of course, there’s the dreaded "l word": like. This is, like, the hallmark of Valspeak. But I have to confess, I am guilty of this one myself. Try as I may to avoid it, "like" has crept into my speech and has taken hold like a fashionista who just found a pair of Jimmy Choos on sale. I, like, say it ALL the time. So I am not, like, going to get all high and mighty about this one. Still, I know it is like, RULLY annoying (especially when combined with the "A-word": actually. As in, "We like, actually, didn't even start eating dinner until, like, actually, 9 PM").

Call it The Voice, call it Valspeak, call it whatever you like, this unfortunate linguistic trend is taking over our nation and it's time we called a halt to it.

Young Women of America: Why, oh why, do you persist in talking this way? Do you think it sounds fun and cool? It doesn’t. It sounds stupid and shallow. And super annoying. Does it make you feel like you're part of the club? Damn right it does — The Spoiled Ditzy Airheads of America Club.

Um, ladies, hell-o! Can't you plueeeze stop? Seriously, I am, like, begging you. PLEASE. STOP. TALKING. THIS. WAY. NOW.

Of course, it's hopeless. It seems Valspeak is here to stay.

And I am, like, sooooo over it.

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57 responses to “Valley Nation (OMG. Why does, like, EVERYONE talk this way now??)”

John Leblanc

June 7, 2012

You have very accurately described this most annoying, and growing verbal abomination. I find it increasingly more difficult to have to listen and take seriously women who talk this way. To me, its just another indication of the growing infantalization of the American female. Keep up the good work!

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Marcie Judelson

June 7, 2012

Thanks, John! It’s good to know I am not the only one who is, like, superrrr annoyed with this trend. And I often wonder how men can stand it.

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Ethan

June 25, 2012

Thank you so much for this, I’m a historian and Mad Men addict but the way almost ALL of the women on the show speak is completely AHISTORICAL (not to mention intensely irritating). Growing up on the East Coast in the 1970s and 80s, there was a lot of variety in accents and dialects according to region and social class, but NO ONE talked like this. Mad Men is set in New York in the 1960s, but the women on the show in particular, with only one or two exceptions, all speak the homogenous Southern Californian dialect that has taken over the English-speaking world since the 1990s (the actress who plays Megan is, in real life, really from Montreal–but nowadays it doesn’t matter anymore where you’re from. This homogenization of speech is indeed of the most profound social changes of the least 3 decades or so). How indeed could this have escaped the show’s otherwise historically conscious and responsible producers? After all it shouldn’t have been that hard to think of it–don’t they remember how their parents talked?
But what amazes me even more is how so few VIEWERS seems to notice or care. Yours is about the only blog that I could find that even raises the issue. What’s up with that?

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Marcie Judelson

July 1, 2012

Ethan,
Thanks for the comment (and sorry for the late reply). Good to know I’m not the only one who is infuriated by the Valley Girl dialect on “Mad Men”. They get this aspect of the show completely wrong. Not only does Megan have “The Voice” (in spite of being from Montreal), I’ve also noticed that even Don Draper’s young daughter, Sally (?), speaks with “The Voice”. There is no escaping it.
I’m not sure why other viewers aren’t annoyed about this, but I’m guessing it’s because they also speak this way, so it sounds completely normal to them. And very few of them even remember the Sixties.
I dunno…it’s a mystery to me.

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Jeff Royster

July 6, 2012

I hear it everywhere with women of all races now and political affiliations: Michelle Malkin and Sarah Pallin have their vocal versions. It’s as if they feel they have to cushion what they are saying with “Pillowy Vocal cushioning” so as to still retain some uber-feminity! (You know just in case anyone is offended or holds these women accountable for their words.) My two faves or horrids in “The Voice” are Krystal Ball and Sophie LaMontagne and Katherine Kallinis from “DC Cupcakes. These are two sisters, educated and professional. Now granted they are attractive and spunky seeming. They upsell their baby style and girlish speechifying to unreal levels. You would think they were 11 and 12 years old respectively. And Krystal Ball, man! How is this woman-tween not on Entertainment tonite or some BRAVO fashion show!!! Virtually every word is laced with cutesy, reassurance, pluck and vive of sharing coquettishnesses with a BFF or alluring hottie!-Yuck!! I hope some day these young women will allow their speech to age and flourish to something more grounded and substantial. One can only hope.

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Marcie Judelson

July 10, 2012

Yes, hope springs eternal. So glad I’m not the only one who is driven to distraction by these baby-talking women. Thanks for reading and empathizing!

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Sarah R

October 14, 2012

Tell me about it. I teach classes at a univerity in North America and “the Voice” drives me to distraction. I grew up in the UK and I always thought it was just me who hated it.
I think it makes me especially irritated because I’m only in my mid twenties and someohow I manage to avoid speaking like this. Also because these girls are supposed to be educated adults and it makes them look like fools.
Though for those rallying against women talking this way, young men are hardly a model of perect speech. See the half swallowed tones of “yeah cool bra” speech pattern for example 😉

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D_Col

November 1, 2012

I purposefully look online for old film footage of everyday people (pre- ’90s) to hear ‘normal’ speak (it actually relaxes me). I am beyond annoyed every time I turn on the television, you can’t escape “The Voice” (that’s what I call it too, BTW). It’s everywhere! Just the other day I was watching a show where a woman in her mid twenties was having a conversation with a thirteen year old. I expected the woman in her mid twenties to have “The Voice” (not surprised there). But I was aghast when the thirteen year old opened her mouth, she sounded like a three year old! If I had the time and money, I would do a project collecting film footage from decades past (of every day people, not actors), and ‘edit in’ footage of recent decades with everyday people talking, for mere comparison. I would make such a stink about this in the hopes that those with “The Voice” will notice just how annoying and immature they really sound.

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Sephiroth_FF

December 17, 2012

Everything you said rings true (although reading all those horrible “likes” and “seriouslys” has really done my head in).
I’m 25 and I’m from Australia. I watch a lot of American TV so I’m unfortunately exposed to this horrible phenomenon. You think being from Australia without watching ANY modern American TV would save me from this hell but it doesn’t. You’d be surprised to learn that a lot of Australians seem to speak Valspeak! It is really…unbearable. Everytime I walk by a pack of girls, all I hear is…well, exactly what you said (I’m sorry, I can’t type it out because it’s too sickening). Australians no longer have their own culture. We USED to and not that long ago but American culture has taken over Australia. You can’t walk a few feet without hearing “like” and “awesome”. Even my most dreaded so-called “new annoying word” “Seriously” is starting to creep in.
The thing is I like American culture or at least I used to. I like the way that Americans do everything big. It’s a much more exciting country than Australia But the infiltration of this Valspeak has infected everything I used to love about it.
My mum and I are always discussing the ways females talk these days and how they never used to. I keep telling her that people used to be parts of separate groups. You had Valley Girls, nerds, surfies, etc. But the problem is, everyone is mixed these days. Nerds would never have spoken like this 20 years ago. The nerds use Valspeak! Talk about ironic since Valley Girls would be considered popular girls and nerds obviously are not.
I’m so glad that I don’t feel alone in this. Most people see this as a normal speech pattern but I don’t. I see supposedly smart, brainy girls speaking like this. Perhaps they are smart but like someone said, you just can’t take them seriously when they sound like a 5-year old.
And Mad Men…one of my biggest gripes. I’m always telling my mum that despite this show being set in the 60’s, all the women on the show speak like “that”. And she said to me “I bet no one even notices this”. And it’s true. Very few people would. These people must think that women have always spoken like this. The producers never tell them “They didn’t talk like that in the 60’s. Alter your voice”. But there is one actress who I think actually tries…Allison Brie. If you’ve ever watched Community, you’ll know very well that she uses Valspeak. But in Mad Men, she sounds very different and I get the impression that she’s at least trying to cover up her whiny voice. The other gripe I have about Mad Men is the use of slang, which is also related to Valspeak. One time, Peggy came in the room and said “Really, this again?” The way “really” is used these days sickens me but even worse is when Don told Megan something, and it was the truth, he obviously wasn’t joking and her response was “Seriously?” They did not used the perfectly normal English word in this way in the 60’s. They didn’t even use it in the 90’s! This is a recent phenomenon! And I despise it.
So many period shows and games claim to pay attention to detail (the 1940’s set game LA Noire constantly uses the abbreviation “vic” for the word “victim”, which has only been abbreviated over the past few years) but obviously speech is not included. Several times I’ve heard the words “awesome”, “seriously” and “really” in American Horror Story but this wasn’t during the normal portions of the show. This was during the flashbacks (so pre-1980).
I have to agree with what Sarah R said. I’m only 25 and I’ve grown up hearing some girls speaking like that (who were then Valley Girls) but this disease seems to have really come into effect for most of the American and Canadian female population over the last ten years so there was still a chance that we both could’ve ended up sounding like that. But we didn’t and we’re lucky. I suppose if we were Americans, there’d be more of a chance that it could happen.
This used to be a way of speaking for a certain type of girl but now girls are born into this way of speaking like it’s an actual dialect.
Maybe it’s because I despise so much about the world today and all the stupid little trends that keep popping up but I don’t want to be like everyone else. Everyone I see a female on TV, I say to myself “She’s going to talk like that”. Once she opens her mouth, she talks like that.
I think considering these actors are paid, they should undertake voice lessons to learn to speak properly. Do they not realize that they sound abnormal? Do the producers actually like the way they sound? We need to get this off of TV. If females didn’t speak like this on TV, chances are the rest of the female population wouldn’t either.
I hope everyone will spread this blog around because more people need to wake up and say “I must be really irritating to listen to” and change they way they speak. We can no longer have a world of air-heads.

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Marcie Judelson

December 18, 2012

Wow. First, thank you for reading. Second, thank you for such an interesting response.
I am surprised and saddened to hear that Valspeak has infiltrated Australia (been there once, in the early 90s, and certainly never heard a hint of a Valley Girl accent anywhere).
I am also frankly encouraged that a young person like yourself would even notice this trend, let alone be as annoyed by it as I am.
It gives me hope that maybe there is a chance, albeit a slim one, of making this manner of speech unpopular.
In the meantime, I guess we just have to keep cringing every time we hear it.
And please, by all means, share this post with as many people as you can. We need to get the Anti-Valspeak Movement going globally.
Like, NOW!

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Marcie Judelson

December 18, 2012

Hi there,

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Sephiroth_FF

December 18, 2012

It really is a recent thing. I finished high school in 2005 and I never heard Valspeak anywhere. But after I left, it seems like it just popped up out of nowhere. America has always had a big influence on Australia culture (although the idea of good food and big sizes, something Australia would have benefited from, doesn’t seem to have made an impact) but not so much as it has over the past few years. It’s affected Australian culture so much so that there’s barely a hint of Australian culture left. Surprisingly, it seems to have had little impact over in England.
I find it kind of amazing that the majority of people don’t even notice what’s happening to the world. What about all the people who grew up in the 60’s and 70’s? Do they not notice that women have become especially annoying lately?
Although Valspeak seems to affect more girls and young women than older women, I still have heard women over forty speak like this. And it’s not only the tone of their voices, their facial expressions and the constant need to express themselves by moving their heads, it’s also slang. Valspeak brought with it slang that only a certain type of people would use. Surfies came up with the slang version of “awesome” in the early 80’s but I never heard it so much in the 90’s as I do today. It’s used for EVERYTHING and I definitely consider it a part of Valspeak. Perfectly normal words like “so”, “totally” and “like” are also supposed to be part of Valspeak yet I hear practically everyone using them in the slang way now. Don’t they know how stupid they sound? Or do they think they sound good? I’ve always wondered that.
Like I said in my earlier post, everyone is meshed together these days. There’s no individuality of any kind. Perhaps that’s why I escaped it and actually noticed what’s happening to people. I’ve always resented being like everyone else.
There are no barriers when it comes to Valspeak. Whether they have the Valley Girl “dialect”, whether they use Valspeak slang, males and females of any age seem to be caught up in this trend.
With young people, you sometimes kind of expect them to be immature and get caught up in trends but when this trend is affecting adults over 40, you know something’s very wrong. Actors I’ve watched for a long time have suddenly turned into ditzy air-heads. And I don’t necessarily mean just females. I’m talking about actors such as John Travolta and David Boreanaz. They say “awesome” and “seriously” so many times it makes my heard spin. I guess they don’t think they sound stupid. Or they’re just trying to act younger.

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Marcie Judelson

December 19, 2012

Oh, I hear you. I’ve had it with “awesome” and “seriously”. And how about “amazing”?
(check out my previous post, “It’s Like, So Amazing”.
Great comments. I think you need a blog of your own.

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Sephiroth_FF

December 19, 2012

Haha, you think? I can just imagine the comments I’d get.
I’ve come across a few articles such as the most overused words of the year and often find “Amazing” on it but I actually don’t hear it used in the slang sense that much. I hear “douchebag” a whole lot more. Now don’t get me started on that one!

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Barbara Heick

January 26, 2013

Thank you so much for writing about this. I did grow up in the 70’s and thought that this type of speech irritated me just because I am a cranky oldish woman. The people who talk like this make me want to scream! I know it’s their generations culture; but upspeak sounds to me like they are unsure of EVERYTHING they are saying. I have also heard that argument that they are trying to be polite in case someone disagrees with their viewpoint. You know what? Being able to express your viewpoint without ticking people off is part of being an adult! You don’t have to try to please everyone; but if you try to in this manner people are not going to take you seriously because you sound like you don’t know what you are talking about. And using the word “like” every few words just sounds as dumb as “uuuummmm” (the bane of my generation). I know a lot of people say that it is just females doing this; but lately I have noticed a lot of young men in their 20’s speaking this way too. Please I BEG of you; think about this! Would you really want your doctor to someday say to you “You like have cancer? You like might have like a chance to like live? Here’s what I like think you should do?” I don’t know about you but I don’t like think I would like really be like reassured!

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Marcie Judelson

January 27, 2013

Thanks for the comment, Barbara.
Last night, I was seated next to two young women at a sushi bar. I tried to count every time they said, “like”. But it was impossible, because every other word they said was “like”!
As I’ve said before, I am also guilty of saying “like” way too often. It has crept into my speech over time. I have to make a conscious effort not to say it.
Your point about the doctor is well taken.
Would love to see that scenario played out in a sketch. But would it even sink in?
I doubt it.

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Kati

March 14, 2013

Several of my female neighbors speak in this manner and it drives me crazy. These women are not in their 20s or 30s, but 40s-50s and seem to be imitating their tween and teenage children. From the rather disturbing use of “Omigawd” that starts their sentences to the constant peppering of “like” between their words, it’s rather annoying trying to have a decent conversation with them. I’m 29 and I speak with more conviction and thus probably appear to be more sophisticated to the average observer. This is not merely a young person’s issue, but one that affects women and even some men into their 40s and beyond.
A sample (and yes, I’ve been tempted to count all the “likes” and tell them how many they average per sentence, but so far I haven’t): “Omigawd, like, the other, like, day, I was outside, and, like, I saw a huge spider, like, it was HUGE? And I said, omigawd! And, like, so GROSS! Like, wow. Just wow. I wanted to, like, scream? It was ugly and I hate spiderrrrs! Just sayin’”

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Dulcinea

March 17, 2013

I think John Leblanc hit the nail on the head, and we are indeed witnessing the infantalization of the American female. I have a son, 11, and a daughter, 9, and while I worry that they are learning intolerance from me, I just can’t help it. The minute we’re confronted by “the affectation,” my husband and I obnoxiously mimic it. While I hope an appreciation for the silliness of that voice is sinking in, I fear that my daughter is starting to exhibit some disturbing speech patterns. I tell you, it’s like the Borg!
I am a court reporter, and it both astounds and saddens me to see that 99% of the female attorneys I deal with speak this way. Day-in, day-out, I am forced to listen to these people intently and write their every word. I must say, though, that in the legal world, the uptalk isn’t as prevalent as the vocal fry. I guess that’s their way of sounding assertive. Oh, brother.

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Marcie Judelson

March 22, 2013

Kati and Dulcinea — I, like, soooo agree with you both! The only time I allow myself to laugh at Valspeak (vs cringe) is when I listen to the Shoshanna character on “Girls”.
I assume (hope, pray) that her exaggerated Uptalking is meant as a parody. At least I hope so.
Is this awful trend everrrr going to stop?
We are doomed.

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John Caruso

April 7, 2013

Yes, yes, yes. I’ve been thinking about this for some time now–the fact that Valley Girl-speak, once a derided regional dialect, has not only continued but flourished beyond all imagining, and now dominates the entire verbal landscape for young American women. And it’s not just the dialect (as you say): it’s the snottiness, the sense of entitlement, etc etc. I also live in San Francisco, but when I go to rural western New York to visit my family, in a town with a few thousand people, guess how all the young girls there talk (and act)? Yes indeed.
Here’s a mindblower for you: I watched Valley Girl a few weeks ago for the first time in my life (managed to miss it in the 80s). And there is far less Valspeak in Valley Girl than there now is in nearly every encounter with any American female under the age of 27. It’s not even close.
If I can go all sociological on you, I think this is just one symptom of a deeper societal rot. Look at television shows like Top Model that apotheosize the absolute worst in human behavior. The problem is that young women now aspire to that, rather than seeing it as the blight on the human spirit that it is. And it’s not just them; we’re all being sold a lifestyle like this that tells us to elevate ourselves above all else, every day and in countless ways, but it just so happens that the variant of that lifestyle that’s being sold to young women happens to come with its own lingua franca. (And along those same lines, US cultural dominance worldwide likely explains why the selling of that lifestyle has started to permeate other countries as well–which I find as horrifying as you do.)
It’s nice to hear a voice of reason, and others chiming in. Thanks for taking the time to write this up so well and so thoroughly.

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Marcie Judelson

April 7, 2013

Hi John – I am glad you went all sociological on me, because I couldn’t agree more! If our current pop culture is any indication, young women today have definitely not come a long way, baby…instead, they have regressed beyond comprehension. It makes me want to write a follow-up to this post.
Anyway, thanks for reading and commenting.
I appreciate it.

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Dan E

May 4, 2013

It’s the most awful, disturbing, irritating, baby-talk manner of speaking going on. It sounds so dumb. I’d never hire a girl (or guy) that spoke like this no matter how smart they may seem otherwise. Jerks.
I don’t know what we can do to stop it other than to not hire it. That should keep it off of TV, courts, emergency rooms and other places where the public has to listen to this speech impediment.

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ElsyLuvsJersey

May 16, 2013

Great piece! But, I have noticed this Creaky Craze goes beyond American young women. Men do it too. And the trendier the clothes, the creakier the voice. I also notice women well vinto their 50s talk like this. Also, there is a facial expression that goes with the voice. (Kind of like, “eeww”!) Something like that! There is Brit creaky voice, Aussie creaky voice, Indian, Southerner, and so on. The most amusing example was a young nun or novice speaking to a reporter in creaky voice! But, she was adorable!

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K$

May 21, 2013

I went to another country for a year to study abroad and for a long time was completely isolated from girlygirlz. After two years of isolation from that crowd, I was sitting on a bus to a graduation event, and was listening to the girls around me chatter. It began to dawn on me that this accent is both bizarre and flat-out annoying. I also realized how odd it is that it is has only affected women. No one sounds remotely intelligent speaking like this. I have tried hard to rid myself of this dialect, and will try to spread the word to other girls to CHECK THEMSELVES.

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Marcie Judelson

May 22, 2013

Thanks for helping to spread the word!
We, like, sooo need your help and support.

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Jonathan

June 5, 2013

I blame the Disney Channel. Micheal Eisner started the whole thing. When Hillary Duff’s Lizzie McGuire character went on the air; Valley speak was introduced to millions of pre-teen girls; who are now fully grown. Then Hannah Montana came later down the road, Raven, etc. If you watch those shows; you will see that EVERY character uses Valley speak to a degree. Not only does every adult sound as immature as the children; but, everybody sounds completely stupid. They even have old lady characters using Valley speak; which is, extremely unrealistic. Not only that; the Disney channel started a trend of Television shows using this accent not only with women; but, with MEN as well. It has spread across the entire entertainment world. Just listen to modern sitcoms like “The Big Bang Theory”. Every single nerd on that show; Sheldon included, has that irritating Valspeak vocal inflection and whine. And if you listen to a lot of the younger male voice overs; you will notice that they’re doing the exact same thing. Ever watch a show with a geek narrorator? Guess what? The geek narrorator has a tone of valspeak mixed in there as well. Valspeak seems to have even infiltrated the tech nerd culture. That alone is very bizarre. An intelligent crowd like that is the very last crowd you would expect to be speaking in the dialect of a complete moron. This thing has affected men as well. I have met plenty of young men and who talk that way in recent years. I don’t talk that way at all and I’m only one generation ahead of them; having spent part of my childhood in the 80’s and the other part in the 90’s (And with this crazy modern culture or lack of culture that we have now.. I would rather be living back in one of those decades.. preferrably the 1980’s). I feel that television and movies have caused the Vally Nation epidemic. Either the executives think it’s “the new talk” or “hip” for characters to talk that way; or, the people writing and performing the characters talk that way. And I suspect it’s the executives trying to set trends for the younger demographic. The thing is; THEY’RE the ones who started all of the young people to talking that way with their stupid shows in the first place. Everyone in this country in these modern times is now heavily influenced and programed by television. Vally speak is also one of the reasons I think many sitcoms just aren’t good anymore. All of the sitcom characters speak in Valspeak or uptalk until you’re ready to reach through the screen and strangle them…both Women AND Men.. And none of the characters sound like mature adults. Blame Corporate Hollywood; as I said before. And I still think the Disney Channel started the whole mess.

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Marcie Judelson

June 5, 2013

Thanks for your observations, Jonathan.
You make a convincing case for placing the blame for all this on the Disney Channel. Maybe they are the original culprit, who knows. But as you say, we can definitely blame Corporate Hollywood/TV.
I have assiduously avoided most of the sitcoms you mentioned, so I haven’t heard as many guys speaking Val Talk, but I suspect you are right about that. I work with young, techie guys, and I really don’t hear Val Speak much (just “awesome!” which is the only word anyone uses around here).
Every time I hear the young women around me speaking this way, I am completely bewildered as to WHY, oh why, does this new crop of 2013 females (and some of the guys) aspire to speaking like (childish) morons? Is this a backlash to Women’s Lib? Or a reaction to MEN being threatened by grown-up sounding women?
I don’t know. But it’s a sad commentary on our so-called “culture”.

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September 18, 2013

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September 25, 2013

I am so pleased to read this as I thought I might be the only human on earth both fascinated, and simultaneously disgusted, by this phenomenon. And, I agree, that the rise from funny-quirky aberration to almost universal use has been phenomenal. I have had to deal with it by suppressing my disgust and trying to research and understand this development…I have had little luck with that but your column is a wonderful help.
I also have noted that the use of all the individual quirks combined into a single “accent” has become pervasive throughout North America, no longer just a SFV regional curse, and not confined to an age-group, class or even ethnic group.
But, since I hear many examples on radio (and pod-casts) and especially on NPR, I have a couple observations to add:
Though it is far more prevalent in younger women, it’s not 100% a young female “vocal tic”, I have heard a few males (mainly young) as well as middle-aged women speak with the “full-monty”: like-like, uptaking endings, exaggerated vowels (rully) and gravel-sandy low-pitching.
I have been surprised to note how many speakers are Asians and how few are African-Americans, but the vast majority are white (or so they self-describe).
I also note how many are “professional experts”, often scientific or technical commentators…also very often they are professional journalists, reporters and authors (this may be heavily influenced by the NPR sources, but I wonder).
I noticed this so frequently that I began to suppose this could be a speech pattern that was “learned” in schools, especially elite institutions of higher education. Seems like a very long-shot but since it’s clearly “learned” it must start somewhere and be reinforced by positive feed-back.
I have some theories of my own about some of the specific details and where they may have originated (like up-talking and the use of “like”) but this comment of mine is already quite long. I may save thes for another day.
THANK YOU, again!

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Marcie Judelson

September 25, 2013

Hi Alan,
Thank you for your comments. Great to know I am not the only one who is driven to distraction by “The Voice”!
I think (hope) the media is starting to pick up on this trend. The recent film, “In a World” touched on the topic…but only briefly.
I now have to stop myself from approaching women and shouting, “WHY are you speaking that way??!!” The urge is becoming overwhelming.

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Alan G.

October 2, 2013

I’m back to add some more commentary. In the interest of keeping things brief I’d like to put forward one of my theories concerning just one of the “features” of “the Voice”…this one: the use of “like”.
Yes, I catch myself doing it , too, and it can be a maddening habit, which goes to just how easy some of these tics can lodge in normal speech by normal folks.
I believe that the use of “like” preceding nearly every statement serves to provide “cover” for the speaker: you don’t actually (sorry) commit to what you’re about to assert, it’s just sort-of vaguely similar (or not, I can’t decide…you decide for us both. OK?)
That works so nicely it becomes the cozy, safe place to position everything from: “I’m (like) not really sure of ANYthing I’m about to (like) say, or even if I should be (like) talking at all, or (like), even on this planet…OK?” Notice how often the word comes right before a verb, because that’s the most “assertive” part of speech. But of course one can also assert that a thing IS a thing, so “like” also equivocates whether any noun is (like) a real thing.
My theory is that this habit came about from shy, nervous girls forced to speak up publicly (probably in a classroom or before a group of judgmental peers) and this was grasped as “instant cover”. It was so effective that boys (who didn’t fit the stereotype of blustering blowhard) picked it up, too. And with constant use it became an ingrained, nervous habit…a vocal tic.

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Marcie Judelson

October 2, 2013

Thanks, Alan. Glad you are inspired by this topic! I, like, am interested in your theory about “like”. You may be right. I don’t know.
One of my colleagues uses a similarly wishy-washy expression — she says, “sort of” all the time. As in, “I guess we could sort of have the meeting on Tuesday and if we sort of agree to move forward, then the next step would be to create a sort of budget.” I’m not exaggerating. One of my favorite meeting games is to count the “sort of’s”!
I don’t think this is a common trend. It’s just her own verbal tick. But it’s in keeping with your theory about unassertive women.
Sadly, I say “like” constantly. So I can’t claim to be above all that. But it definitely annoys me when I hear it from others. Especially when I hear it from the “baby voiced” Val Girls. Truly, it’s The Voice that puts me over the edge.

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Alan G.

October 4, 2013

Thanks for your encouragement, or what I’m going to take as such…here’s my next installment of half-baked theory. What’s the deal with “up-talking”? Like every human being who has learned to speak standard American English, I have always used a rising tone at the end of a sentence or phrase to indicate a question. If I was reading from a page and saw a question mark, this was the cue to end that spoken sentence with a raised pitch. Simplicity: no raised pitch, no question being asked…this was the norm for YEARS, nay DECADES. Only exception I was aware of was English spoken with an Irish-Gaelic accent, or with a Japanese accent/inflection. Within the last 15 years (my estimate) there began an increasing, encroaching habit by some speakers (who employ “The Voice”) to end ALL their spoken phrases-sentences-statements (which are NOT questions) with a raised tone. And these speakers did NOT learn some other dialect of English in their mother’s kitchen and they sure ain’t trying to sound Irish or Japanese: it’s an adopted habit.
WHY?
I believe that there is a practical “benefit”, or at least some result, gained from this habit. For one it’s yet another signal that the speaker is unsure or uncommitted to the thing she’s saying: “I’m not making a statement, I’m asking permission”. Beyond that simple self-negation there’s also any number of IMPLIED questions: “I am stating a certain fact but: Do you understand me? Are you listening to anything I’m saying? Am I credible? Do I have any standing? AM I being HEARD??”
The one thing it certainly does is to signal that something consistently odd is going on: everything that sounds like a question is not one. You have to pay attention to the constant mis-cue and either blithely ignore it or be forever off-balance.
It strikes me as perfect verbal passive-aggression. It’s grating, maybe even provoking, but hides behind a shield of (false) timidity.
In that one respect it seems to be part of a package with the use of “like”, but the two tics can stand alone, too.

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October 10, 2013

Hi, an example of older women who speak like thaaaassss (frog-y voice) is GMA contributor Tory Johnson. She is also author of weigh loss success story The Shift. She is pleasant, accomplished, nice. Ok. But, when she talks…! And her facial expressions! Like “eeww” ! I DK, wrinkling nose, raising eyebrow. Sge reminds me of Rebecca Black wheb interviewed by abc. Oh, well. BTW, Drew Barrymore’s voice seems to be improving.

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Anna

October 14, 2013

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!! I live in Los Angeles and I have reached the end of my rope with Valspeak and Vocal Fry !
It reminds me of pedophilia and severely creeps me out.
I am in my twenties and have lived all over the world, it has spread like cancer.
Somebody PLEASE PLEASE, I beg you, PLEASE make it stop, it could make ears bleed !

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Sarah

October 29, 2013

I too have been very annoyed by this accent. It’s one of my pet peeves. I started a new job recently where I am surrounded by it. I am surprised that women think they can be taken seriously when speaking in this manner. I truly don’t understand it; but it doesn’t stop there, the men I work with also have this accent, and they are married with children. I think this is becoming a nation wide epidemic that needs to be stopped.

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Anonymous

November 15, 2013

I am an eighteen year old girl, and I have noticed this tone of voice, it is very annoying! “Valspeak” seems to be taking over the world, but I do know some girls who don’t use this way of speaking. I admit that I say “like” a lot and I have to make a conscious effort to tone it down. I don’t speak in the high pitch whiny tone though (or at least I don’t think I do…) and have no idea where it comes from or why girls do this! I feel that it happens more often when girls are in groups with many other girls. I’ve noticed that it is more common to hear other girls chatting in big groups using “valspeak” than individually. Great article, I sympathize with your frustration!

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Laurel Wroten

March 16, 2014

Yesterday, after enduring 5 hours in Delta coach next to two young women who were engaged in nonstop Valspeak, I came home and googled “young female annoying speech pattern,” which led me to this amusing and cathartic essay. Thank you. I’m so glad I’m not alone! I’ve been calling it The Voice, too, because it’s become so depressingly ubiquitous, and sounds the same no matter where you hear it — the linguistic equivalent of some soulless corporate chain. Like you and many of the other commenters, I can’t fathom how a vocal affectation that was mocked back in the ’80s has managed to return with the vengeance of a mutant flu strain, even infecting NPR (it’s like fingernails on a chalkboard every time I hear that irritating young woman thank the “William and Flora Hewlett FOUN-DAY-SHUNNN.”) How did this happen?!? Why did “couldn’t” morph into “counant” and “better” into “batter” and “so” into “saowww”? Is this babyish way of speaking somehow tied in with the pubic hair waxing fad, part of a subconscious effort by young women to infantilize themselves? Or are they just imitating pop stars, the way young women always have, only now the celebrities are cheesy and vacuous. Imagine Lauren Bacall with a Valley Girl accent, or Myrna Loy, or Audrey Hepburn, or Kathleen Turner. It’s, like, ewwwwww….
By the way, your name rang a bell in my head when I saw it — then I remembered: Happy Days on KWMR! My favorite show on the station! I love music of the ’20s and ’30s and always have, even when my friends were tuning in to the Beatles and the Stones. Maybe we were born too late!

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J. Valentine

March 24, 2014

There is a Millennial Male version of this.
It has many of the same characteristics: the statements sounding like questions; the overuse of “like’, “‘definitely’; ‘actually’, and ‘totally’; and an overall infantile/entitled/sniveling timbre and register.
This Millennial Male version has unique qualities too, e.g., starting a sentence with, ‘Hey, man..’ and the liberal use of ‘man’ and ‘dude’.
Whatever this version is, it deserves a good name.

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DW

April 15, 2014

I’d like to add to the list…. only because I have no clue where the inflection of “OK” used by anyone under 30 came from. I noticed it about 4 to 5 years ago….and it’s only grown out-of-control like wild grape vines strangling the culture. The first time I heard it, it sounded like the young woman was annoyed with her person she was responding to….with the somewhat musical “OK.” The tone seemed to say, “Alright, I know what you mean, and I don’t want to hear you explain anything…or even talk anymore.”
I have not words to describe it, but it’s just flippant sounding.

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DanielleM

June 11, 2014

I recently came across this post as I was searching this topic – hoping that I wasn’t the only one who finds this “Voice” painfully annoying. I’m surrounded by this all day, every day, in my office. Even the higher up women have adopted this speech pattern from the new 20-30 something employees. I can only describe it as listening to nails on a chalkboard – you try and get used to it, but you just can’t. Thank you for writing this; you certainly hit the nail on the head, and it gives me comfort to know I’m not alone while I endour this agony everyday at work.

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Marcie Judelson

June 11, 2014

You are most welcome, Danielle. Thanks for letting me know I’m not alone out there.
I agree with everything you said. My office is the same way. And no, you can’t get used
to it! Impossible.
Have you noticed all the female voiceovers on tv commercials also have The Voice? There’s no escape.

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Ccvl

September 28, 2014

I am serrrriously guilty of Valspeak, but that’s because I grew up in Southern California. However, I moved to nyc 15 yrs ago, where the prevalence of valspeak and uptalk was comparatively small– and lost a lot of my uptalk (still use ‘”like” a lot tho).
But now? 2014? Valspeak has permeated nyc like a virus, especially women. In 15 short years I have witnesses valspeak spreading like a plague.
Great article! Lol “baby smurf”

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Kristin

November 21, 2014

I thought it was me!! I’m so happy to not be the only person whose nerves get grated to shreds by the latest beer commercial or for some trashy, reality show.
Samantha Jones from Sex and the City is the worst!! Watch Manneqin and Kim Catrall had a very feminine, soft voice, yet in Sex and the City, she’s a pretentious d-bag with every word ending in a crunchy whiiiiine. I hate this new fad and I hope all the fakers (not those born with a naturally raspy voice) get permanent laryngitis and stop abusing normal folks’ ears.

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Anais Wolf

March 31, 2016

I don’t think it is merely the fashion of speaking that has a contagious element. I notice a shallow, entitled and cultural superior mindset that seems weave through the undercurrents of these types of speech patterns. I often hear young men talk this way as well.
BTW. I am a music composer who never went to collage. I am merely an observer, as critical of myself as I am of the culture I live in.

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Anais Wolf

March 31, 2016

correction
“Culturally superior”

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